nostr. DAB > sum.DAB,TAB> TABarna/LABarna> I.E. “TABor/TABara, lat. TABerna” |
nostr. DAB > sum. DAB, TAB >> myn. DABurinthoyo < > I.E. DHEUA > DABA,DEBA,THEBA,(DEVA?) |
From ETYMOLOGICAL ANALYSIS OF THRACIAN TOPONYMS AND HYDRONYMS by P Serafimov www.korenine.si/zborniki/zbornik07/serafimov_tra07.pdf
Facts and discussion The terms for different types of settlements in the Thracian lands were: DABA (DAVA), PARA (PHARA), BRIA, DIZA, MIDNE, OSS (VIS), and DAMA. The most commonly used word for a settlement in Dacia (Rumania) and Moesia (Northern Bulgaria) was DABA (Syki daba), having variants DAVA (Saci dava), DOBA (Gil doba in Moesia), DEVA (Pulpu deva in Thrace), DAPA (Sanci dapa in Moesia). According to Duridanov DAVA is derived from Indo-European dheua with primal meaning camp.He connects it with the Bulgarian verb дявам (djavam) – I put, I set and Homeric Greek τοωκος – sit [2], p. 113. I agree partially with Duridanov. I support that the primal meaning of DAVA – DABA was camp – gathering of people, but in my opinion DABA corresponds to Bulgarian word табор (tabor) – camp, Slovenian word tabor – camp, Czech word tabor – camp or encampment, and Greek τοπος – place.Latin word taberna – hut, and Slavic (Bulg., Serb., Cr., Sl.) word soba – room also have relation to DABA. (D and S could change places in Thracian). The phonetically closest match to DAVA is Czech word DAV – multitude, crowd (gathered people).The root DAV (DAB, TAB) with meaning to gather, to fit is very old. It is to be found in Sanskrit words stabaka – cluster, bunch (gathered objects) and in Avestanic dab – to fit. Further related words are Blg. товар (tovar)– stocks (gathered goods) and O. Blg. Добро (dobro) – stocks (gathered goods). As mentioned above, in the deep antiquity the settlements of type DABA were nothing more than temporary camps (gatherings) of one or more families – about 30-50 persons. During the centuries the settlements become larger (200-500 people) and some even defended by trench, palisade or wall. Technically it became new type of abode, which didn’t correspond anymore to the old definition – camp, family, gathering, but despite of becoming an archaism, DABA, DAVA was used for many years after that, because the original meaning was already forgotten. That process still exists today. Malo selo means small village in Bulgarian, whereas in Slovenian it is Mala vas, but that doesn’t mean that the settlement has a population of only 30-50 humans, the inhabitants could have become 100 times more since the establishing of the place as a small village. It would be fair to ask – Why, if the Thracians were Slavic people, none of the Slavs today use DAVA (or its variants) for settlement? Actually, DAVA in the sense of the word of camp exists no more except for Gypsy (Roma)-like encampments. In the Slavic lands such migratory groups largely yielded to pressures to settle into permanent communities in the last 60 years. As mentioned above, variants of the Thracian word DAVA – camp are still used by the Slavic peoples – Slovenians, Czechs and Bulgarians, that is the word tabor – camp or encampment (Cz) and camp (Blg, Sl), the other Czech word DAV – crowd, multitude is not used to define type of settlement, but signifies gathered people. A bit different meanings of the Slavic words show only the different stages of development of one and the same word.That excludes the possibility of loaning it from other people.
Because of its conservative character the Slovenian language has the most related words: tabor – gathering of people, assembly, taborišče – camp, taboriti – to set a camp, taborenje – placing a camp, taborjan, tabornik – member of the camp, gathering.The presence of only two settlements containing the particle DABA-DEVA in Thrace
(Pulpudeva and Gildoba) made Duridanov think that the north and the south of ancient Bulgaria were occupied by ethnically and linguistically different people [2], p. 115. Georgiev also considered Thracian language very different from Daco-Moesian basing its claim on the rarity of DABA in Southern Bulgaria, and the absence of settlements of type PARA (see below) above Danube [3], pp. 192, 193. Apparently Duridanov [2], p.115, and Georgiev [3], pp. 192,193, didn’t consider the possibility that the differences (found in the place names) could be explained not by the different origin of the people but by different types of their settlements, depending on their way of life. In the lands under Haemus mountain (modern Stara planina) the people had permanent settlements, made possible by hospitable and fertile land and resources of game and fish.
Additionally, the location was proximal to markets on the Black Sea coast, and those on the coasts of Marmara, Aegean and Mediterranean Sea. There the Thracians could exchange their goods: metals, wine, salt, animals, etc. All these peculiarities allowed gathering of wealth and the existence of permanent settlements. In 5th ct BC, Tucydides testified that the empire of Thracian king Sitalkes was richest and mightiest in Europe [4], II-97. In the north of Haemus Mountain and above Danube the people were mainly cattle breeders. They were forced to relocate their temporary camps. (Writing about the Old Slavs from this region Prokopius mentioned (quoted by G. Bakalov, P. Delev, A. Stamatov, A. Fol) that they often relocated their settlements [5], p.112. We know also that those Northern Thracians were poorer than their Southern relatives. Strabo who described the war between Lysimachus and Dromichetes, narrated how after the victory of the Thracians, their king showed to the Macedonian warlord the simplicity of life and the absence of great wealth among Getae [1], VII-3-8. So the rarity of the term DABA in the lands under Haemus Mountain have to be sought in the much earlier permanent abodes of the Southern Thracians, not in the ethnic difference with the people of Moesia and Dacia. In the deep antiquity there were more places in the south of Haemus Mountain using the name of DABA - DAVA - DEVA besides Pupudeva and Mundepa. The Beotian Thebes, Mysian Thebes and Carian Tabae in Asia Minor are examples of that (The oldest name of Thebes was Tabaya, according Czech scholar B. Hrozny [6], p. 202). In my opinion Tabaya corresponds to Thracian DABA, DEVA, DAVA – gathering,camp, fortress, and of course to Modern Slavic tabor – camp (Sl, Blg, Cz). In Asia Minor Lycians used the word ddewe for a settlement, village and krte – city, enwalled place [7], which correspond in my opinion to common Slavic GRAD, GOROD – city, fortress .It is worth mentioning that the archaic character of the Lycian word krte – city is preserved in the Slovenian word KORTE, used for toponyms for settlements on the top
of a hill [8]. It is necessary to bring some light on the resemblance of Slovenian and common Slavic word DEVA – virgin and Thracian DEVA (DABA) – camp.
From Labrys - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labrys “da-pu2-ri-to-yo (KN Gg 702), daburinthoyo potnia meaning "Lady of the Labyrinth". ^ John Chadwick.The Mycenean world".1976; ^ SwadePages "Origin & History ...”
eugenrau : In da-pu2-ri-to-jo we don`t must be focussed on syllables; Dapuritojo,daburinthoyo could be related daburitojo to dab/daba/tabara (daba=”settlement”) and dapuritojo to puri =”city,palace”.
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From The Nostratic macrofamily: a study in distant linguistic relationship - Google Books Result Allan R. Bomhard, John C. Kerns books.google.com/books?isbn=3110139006.. C. Sumerian dab 'to grasp, to seize, to take; to pack; to bind, to fasten (together); to hold', dabs 'to catch, to seize, to capture; to take; to grasp; ...
From Ancient African Writing Systems and Knowledge: Sumerian and Oromo bafsudralam.blogspot.com/2010/03/sumerian-and-oromo.html ... dub 'fix a boundary' ....... dab 'fix' There is striking correspondence between the Oromo and Sumerian verbs. There appears to be full ...
www.lexiline.com/lexiline/lexi37.htm
SUMERIAN WORD | LATVIAN WORD |
DAB 2,4,5 hold, take, seize DIB 2 hold, take, seize DIB 2 pass along, send over, wander DUB kick, flop (said of fish,newborn animals) DUB knock down | DABUO, TAP, TAPT take, hold, seize, become DIB-ina establish, found (seize in this sense) TIP-ina toddles, wanders TAP, TUOP become, emerge, develop TAP, TUOP trample |
1. From Sumerian Lexicon by JA Halloran history-world.org/sumerian%5B1%5D.pdf M.L. Thomsen, The Sumerian Language: An Introduction to Its History and ...... dab(2,4,5), dib(2): n., fetter. v., to hold; to take, seize, catch; to bind, ...
From A Sumer Aryan Dictionary - Google Books Result L. Austine Waddell books.google.com/books?isbn=0766193233 DAB, TAB, Two, twin, double. 3788, M.2451-3, 2463, B.144. ... Tab, a " tent " had theSumerian meaning also of " shrine " for the Sun-god, etc. ...
From NUMÂNCIA comunidade.sol.pt/blogs/ajotaef/default.aspx?p=13 Tabarna término utilizado en el antiguo Imperio Hitita, se refería a la máxima autoridad ...Parece ser que la palabra deriva del nombre de Labarna I, ...
From DE REYES, DIOSES Y HÉROES: Los dioses de Cartago themaskedlady.blogspot.com/2009/.../los-dioses-de-cartago.html
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From labrum, labra- WordWeb dictionary definition www.wordwebonline.com/en/LABRUM
Noun: labrum (labra) ley-brum. A lip or edge, as of a basin ... Derived forms: labra.
From The HBA Palatial Intellectual Disclosures | Αντίβαρο The Deciphering of Linear B Dimitrios G. Mavridis http://www.antibaro.gr/node/1844 …and guard(o-u-ro-to = οουρούτοι, ορώ[55]), the palace and other buildings (da-pu-ri-to-jo = labyrinth)[56]
From Minoan language blog: How many Linear A signs do we have? http://minoablog.blogspot.com/2010/05/how-many-linear-signs-do-we-have.html
Bayndor said... The only real cornerstone of that theory is the word DA-PU-RI-TO-JO in Linear B (Labryntheion). But I discovered that there is a Middle-Eastern word for 'axe', that is tabar (used in Persia and India). Unfortunately, I could not get a concise report if it has a clear etymology, but one cannot avoid the thought if this is the same word the Greeks also used for double-axe: labrys. If we could prove this, it would immediately imply that the writing DA-PU-RI-TO-JO is entirely correct, with a reading *daburinthoio, and that the *d->*l phonetic change clearly happened in the post-Mycenean age.
Glen Gordon said… As for the 'double-axe' caper, I interpret DAPURITOJO as a reflex of Minoan *θaperu. It's perfectly natural that the Indo-European languages in Anatolia, lacking theta, would approximate the sound with /t/ instead. If the initial sound in Minoan weren't something odd like theta, it's hard to simultaneously explain Greek λάβρυς. Remember that this is not the only d/l set in existence (nb. Odysseus and Ulysses).
Glen Gordon said… As for the 'double-axe' caper, I interpret DAPURITOJO as a reflex of Minoan *θaperu. It's perfectly natural that the Indo-European languages in Anatolia, lacking theta, would approximate the sound with /t/ instead. If the initial sound in Minoan weren't something odd like theta, it's hard to simultaneously explain Greek λάβρυς. Remember that this is not the only d/l set in existence (nb. Odysseus and Ulysses).
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