1-on left quadrant signs or letters H
eta-Rho
2-on right side the signs DDoo
Now the reading could be:
1. H.Ro, H.Ru
2. Hr.r.o, hrro, hrou, hru
Otherwise the letters Heta-Rho were found on ancient archaic greek potsherds and scientists are supposing that it ment HeRa/or HeRo(s)/ HeRa(kles)
Yours, ing. Eugen Rau Str. Motilor Nr. 3 Timisoara ROMANIA 4026620694
eugenrau@gmail.com
P.S. My preffered reading HeRa SuRRou (+++++ =Su) phoenician lady/ lady of/from Syrros...or Syrian ??
From The Reality of the Title Assyrian
www.atour.com/.../20030123a.ht...23 Jan 2003 << The Arabs borrowed their terms “Ashur/Ashuri” or “Assyria/Assyrian” from the Jews; their Suryan “Syrian” is a loanword from Greek “Surios.>> ”From Horus and time http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/21/004.html A dialog on comparative philology from the ANE list November 1997Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:47:07 -0600 (CST) From:
(2) The evidence that ancient Egyptians and Greeks both used strictly consonantal scripts, the latter being derived from the Sinaitic script used by the Phoenicians;
(3) The related evidence that much of the Greek lexicon was derived from an Egyptian one (Ibid.);
(4) The evidence presented above that inherent in Egyptian [Hrw] were the meanings of Greek [hora], [horas] and [horizon]; and (5) The Greeks' own reports that their earliest natural philosophers and mathematicians studied in Egypt.
Imho, an Egyptian etymology for the aforementioned Greek words certainly seems logically far sounder than a far less parsimonious one wherein Greek [hora] and [horos] were derived from two different, hypothetical PIE roots, consonantally identical to each other and Egyptian [Hrw] only by "coincidence". In fact, if the possibility that [hora] and [horos] were derived from Egyptian [Hrw] can be accepted, even tentatively, there are then even firmer grounds for hypothesizing that a great deal more of the Greek lexicon was derived when ancient Greek wordsmiths de-personified and secularized the names of other Egyptian deities. For example, [mathematics] can be resolved into the transliterated names (1) [Mat] of the Egyptian goddess of measures, plus (2) [Thema] of the god who lent his name to the Egyptian word "themes" for "writings", some types of which the Greeks called "themas." In such a case, the aorist Greek stem [math-] would have originally meant "measures"; [mathematikos] would have originally meant "writings on measures"; and, the Greek verb to learn [manthanein], which is usually considered the source of [mathematikos], would have originally been either (1) a nasalized derivative of mat(h) or (2) a verb formed from [mn} under the influence of [mat(h)]. I would be more than willing to abandon any or all of the above positions if I can be shown the error of my ways. I should, however, note that the presence of probable cognates of these Greek words in other branches of the Indo-European tree is not grounds for such an abandonment, since theories as to when, how, and where those cognates came into those branches rest on the Greek etymologies and are even more hypothetical than those etymologies. In contrast, if the Egyptian origins of portions of the Greek lexicon can be established, cognates of Greek words in other Indo-European lexicons would have to be considered derivatives of the Mycenaen Greek which was, of course, recorded in a Cretan script of hieroglyphics, many of which, it has already been pointed out, strikingly resemble Egyptian hieroglyphs. In such a case, a great deal of the LEXICONS of now so-called Indo-European languages would have to be renamed Egypto-Indo-European and, eventually, Semito-Egypto-Indo-European. But, in the prevailing paradigm, I guess that would be even more unthinkable than the possibility that just Greek was derived from Egyptian?? Regards,Stephen R. Berlant
From Re: horus demon counterpart
http://www.evocationmagic.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=4513 by raum215 » Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:02 pm Horus has a LONG history in the Semetic peoples, but not all of them are the same. The name Horus is GIANT and not connected to Flauros until the general decay of goetic understanding.
Horus is much older than egypt or their stories of him. Horus likely begins as a proto-Indo-European deity as he matches their dieties. Horus is not his original name, it the Latin of his name - Hoor (and Heru) is his name, the Indo-European cognate H-r means God (h'uer). Ptr is father. Hroptr (h'ru-ptor) is an ancient name for the diety that has a lot of names including Odin but well before the Norse. In the Havamal, he is mentioned by name. Horus can not be taken lightly by any pre-Judean or Indo-European magician in general. He is connected to the ancient notions of deity. Hoor is the father - for he is Ra father of Nu, Shu, and Geb incarnate. All of these Hoor, Hroptr (odin) and Jupiter demanded sacrifices of horseflesh and are connected strongly to corresponding bull myths and some of the oldest forms of self-sacrifice and ressurection cults. They are all also connected to the Eye as a talisman.
Hroptr. This hecomes Hru Pater, and then IO Pater which is actually already sounding alot like Jupiter. By the time the Persians immediately surrender and the great Alexander bloodlessly conquers Thebes, he is already huge in Cadmus's land.
He was adopted by pre-dynastic Egypt, not native to it, and he is older than even the first dynasty. Both he and "Set" are very older. He has at times and in ways been connected to Mars, Sol, and Jupiter and even all at the same time.
In my own work, I practice Thelemic magic, and every aspect of Horus is different. He has at one time been been included in ALOT of religions, including Essianic and Coptic Christianity. He is older than the landbridge of the ancient americas, and in my opinion is not sutiable for a demon counterpart, for he is a Hroptr, an "all Father" and i was instructed to connect him to the enochian name Zilodarp, which means "God of stretch forth and conquer". His name is his creed, and his command to his people. As horus is a living deity who is the oldest worshipped deity we know on the planet with consistent worship, there is no cause to demonize him.
Enochian call 16:
O thow second flame, the howse of Iustice, which hast thy begynning in glory and shalt cumfort the iust: which walkest on the eart[h] with feete 8763 that vnderstand and separate creatures: great art thow in the God of Stretch Furth and Conquere. Moue and shew yor selues: open the Mysteries of yor Creation: be frendely vnto me: for I am the servant of the same your God, the true wurshipper of the Highest.
African Origins of the Word God - Asar Imhotep http://www.asarimhotep.com/documentdownloads/AfricanOriginsoftheWordGod.pdf In Ancient Egyptian this term became Hrw ―sky, sun, God.cybalist : Message: Re: [tied] Arya-http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/6693 Bomhard, in THE NOSTRATIC MACROFAMILY, lists a proto-Nostratic root *har-/* her- "to be superior, to be higher in status or rank, to be above or over"
... "A. Proto-Indo-European *hher-yo- [*hhar-yo-] 'a superior, a person higher in status or rank':Sanskrit arya-h 'a respectable or honorable person' , arya-h 'master,lord'; Old Irish aire 'nobleman, man of rank..." B. Proto-Afroasiatic *har-/*her- 'to be superior, to be higher in status or rank, to be above or over': Proto-Semitic *har-/*hur-
'noble, freeborn'....Hebrew hor 'noble'; Arabic hurr 'noble, free-born'; Ugaritic hrr 'free'; Sabaean hrr 'freeman, free-born men'; Geez/Ethiopic harawi 'free-born, nobleman', harawanna 'freedom', harannat 'freedom; Egyptian hry 'chief,
master, overseer, superior, hr 'on, upon, over, hrw 'upper part, top..."
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