duminică, 20 februarie 2011

work in progress UR-language, UR visa HOR

UR-LANGUAGE=LIMBA VECHE, DE LA ORIGINE ;NOŢIUNEA “SUS,VÂRF”
1.    LIMBA DE,DE LA ORIGINE
The Power of Babel www.langmaker.com/thepowerofbabel.htm
UR-language, spoken perhaps 150 000 years ago or so in East Africa.
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Linguists Debating Deepest Roots of Language www.santafe.edu/.../articles.nostratic.html By George Johnson  It is not that most linguists find implausible the idea that all languages may ultimately have derived from an ancient ur-language spoken millenniums ago. After all, analysis of mitochondrial DNA from the cells of various ethnic groups strongly supports the notion that all humans come from the same genetic stock. If this small group of original humans spoke a single language, then all present-day languages are descended from it. The hypothetical Nostratic is not the ur-language but might be one of its major branches. However, critics of the Nostratic hypothesis have long argued that it is unprovable -- any similarities between languages as distant as the Altaic and Indo-European would have been washed out long ago. They dismiss the parallels unearthed by the Nostraticists as coincidences.
CE ÎNSEAMNĂ UR ŞI DE UNDE VINE

Din germană, unde înseamnă “amănunţit”, şi se foloseşte pentru formarea unor cuvinte compuse ca prefix, astfel conducând la ideea de a merge în amănunt, eventual până capăt,origine. Astfel UR ca prefix ataşează sensul de “proto-,primitiv,original”

Din http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ur-#Etymology Etymology.From German Ur-, originally from Old High German, ir-, or ur- meaning thoroughly.[1] The OED attributes the first attestation in English to Max Müller (1864), in composition with -vocal: "the neutral vowel, sometimes called Urvocal, better Unvocal."

Prefix ur-   Forming words with the sense of ‘proto-, primitive, original

UR-INDOGERMANISCH=Proto-Indo-European
The Indo-European peoples www.ambrosiasociety.org/the_indo-european_peoples.html Linguistic science predicts that the dispersion of proto Indo-European had to happen within ... ancestor was called (Proto-)Indo-European or, in German, (Ur-) Indogermanisch. ... UT at Austin Center for Indo-European Language and Culture ...
CÂND A FOST FOLOSITĂ ACEASTĂ DENUMIRE ASOCIATĂ LIMBII PENTRU PRIMA OARĂ
http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/Terms/ie.html But in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, linguists began to notice some similarities not just within but across these family groups. So, for instance, the Germanic, the Romance, and Hellenic (Greek), and the Indo-Iranian language groups are all distinct, but the words for "father" look suspiciously similar: English "father," German "Vater," Latin "pater," Greek "patêr," Sanskrit "pitar." In the middle of the eighteenth century, a scholar named Sir William Jones explained these cognates by proposing an Ur-language now called Indo-European or Proto-Indo-European (IE or PIE), from which all these language families descended.

CE ÎNSEAMNĂ UR ÎN PIE
Din Igor K. Garshin. About an opportunity of the Indo-European origins ... www.garshin.bravehost.com/Jehovah.htm From an Indo-European root *wr "top", probably, occur both names "Sumir" the .....
HOR ÎN PIE
Indo-European Fauna www.oup.co.uk/pdf/0-19-928791-0.pdf
1.    The name of the 'eagle', *h3or-, is preserved with the meaning 'eagle' in Wve ..... The PIE *kwr8mis is perhaps best translated as a 'wug', i.e. a category ...

Din A GRAMMAR OF MODERN INDO-EUROPEAN - INDO-EUROPEAN WORD dnghu.org/indoeuropean/indo-european_word.htm
Indo-European dialects have adopted different alphabets during the last millennia, ...... as or-ōn (Hitt. ara[š], stem aran-, from PIE *h3or-o-, cf. ...

1.      de T Gotō www.springerlink.com/index/TPN002VP69H82RN5.pdf
They go back to PIE h1er 'come into, reach at', h2ar 'fit' und h3or 'set oneself into a (quick) motion', cf. [Kümmel in Rix et al. 2001, 238, 269f., 299f.]. ...

Din Initial laryngeals in Anatolian www.kortlandt.nl/publications/art202e.pdf
While ār- 'arrive' < *H1ōr- reflects the vowel of the perfect, ar- 'stand' < * H3or- ....PIE. *H- in Armenian”. Annual of Armenian Linguistics 5, 41-43. ...


Din A GRAMMAR OF MODERN INDO-EUROPEAN - INDO-EUROPEAN WORD dnghu.org/indoeuropean/indo-european_word.htm Indo-European dialects have adopted different alphabets during the last millennia, ...... as or-ōn (Hitt. ara[š], stem aran-, from PIE *h3or-o-, cf. ...


The ancient languages of asia minor www.scribd.com/.../The-ancient-languages-of-asia-minor  Greek Àrn-iv, English erne); harra“wealth”); haran- “eagle,” 
PIE h 3 or ¯ 3 ˘ ˘ “crush,” PIE h 2 arh3 -o- < h 2 erh3 -o- (cf. Greek aro-tron “plough”) ...

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